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Miscellaneous => Miscellaneous (PUBLIC) => Topic started by: jollytanaka on April 03, 2008, 11:28PM

Title: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: jollytanaka on April 03, 2008, 11:28PM

OK, so this isn't exactly paddling related, but the question of the name "New Zealand" was posed during tonight's practice.

From Wikipedia:

The first European name for New Zealand was Staten Landt, the name given to it by the Dutch explorer Abel Tasman, who in 1642 became the first European to see the islands. Tasman assumed it was part of a southern continent connected with land discovered in 1615 off the southern tip of South America by Jacob Le Maire. The name New Zealand originated with Dutch cartographers, who called the islands Nova Zeelandia, after the Dutch province of Zeeland.[7] No-one is certain exactly who first coined the term, but it first appeared in 1645 and may have been the choice of cartographer Johan Blaeu.[8] British explorer James Cook subsequently anglicised the name to New Zealand.

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: AdamD on April 04, 2008, 08:29AM

what was the question?

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: jollytanaka on April 04, 2008, 09:47AM

We were talking about Whakapaignia and where he is from (Aotearoa/New Zealand).  Someone asked something akin to "what kind of name is New Zealand?" 

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: AdamD on April 04, 2008, 09:52AM

good 'ol Captain Kook, always anglicising things.

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: cho on April 04, 2008, 11:07AM

maori must be bummed about new zealand... it'll be like as if hawaii was still called the sandwich islands..  or tahiti still called the society islands (they still might be called that)...samoa is still samoa. 

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: andrew c on April 04, 2008, 11:11AM

Ahhh...New Zealand.  The place where men are men and the sheep are nervous... or so my Australian buddies tell me. ;D

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: painteur on April 04, 2008, 06:42PM

we didn't rename Samoa when we owned it. Germoa didn'sound right, but we spell canoe "kanu"

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: scorrell on April 04, 2008, 08:05PM

You mean Germany successfully conquered something?

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: painteur on April 04, 2008, 10:11PM

apparently a lot less bloody then what your country has  been trying to conquer  the last 5 years.

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: Jim on April 06, 2008, 09:24PM

March 15, 1889.  The US and Germany each had three warships anchored in Apia harbor, Samoa, as a typhoon approached.  Neither side was willing to leave in order to gain sea room against the storm, because each feared the other country would take advantage of some local troubles to take full control.  The result of the pissing match?  Four ships wrecked, the other two severely damaged, 140 sailors killed. 

And I'm sure when it was all over the locals had a kava or six and said, "Stupid palangis." 

Which is the same thing Ski and Mahe called me when I beat them at dominoes.

Title: Re: Aotearoa/New Zealand
Post by: Tama on April 11, 2008, 02:07PM

At least the Maori have a their own nation. I can thank Whakapaignia for reminding me of that.